HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 1 Video. Add a bio, trivia, and more. ', MORRISON: When Dr. Andrew Bagby's bullet-riddled corpse was, found in a Pennsylvania state park in November 2001, his devastated parents. Turner, the daughter of a U.S. serviceman and a woman from St. Anthony, met Andrew while they were attending medical school at Memorial University in St. Johns. They are prophecies. We were done," Kate Bagby said, finishing her husband's thought, a quirk of their relationship that became apparent during a several-hour recount of how their lives spiraled out of control after that phone call from police. hoped Shirley Turner would be returned to the US to face a murder trial. And now it's just. Mr. SHEARS: Yeah, I guess it did at the time, but I still didn't have, MORRISON: How difficult must it have been to ingratiate, themselves with their son's suspected killer? Maybe the last time you talked to Shirley there was some very subtle change in tone. No less than seven of those friends had asked Bagby to be the best man at their weddings. Dear Zachary recently won the Sigma Delta Chi Award for Best Documentary of 2008 from the Society of Professional Journalists. If it looks like she's likely to go back, how is she going to behave? A 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition Blu-Ray and DVD with special artwork and packaging is available only from Oscilloscope Laboratories at the link below. Mr. SIMPSON: Andrew, you know you can do a lot better. iTunes | Amazon Prime Video | Google Play, DEAR ZACHARY ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SCORE ALBUM NOW AVAILABLE. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I have that for protection. Mr. SHEARS: I thought they were great with him. Information on who and where to write can be found by going to the "Support Bail Reform" page. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. was that they'd have to accept her daily phone calls. The documentary was originally released in 2008. David R. Bagby Born: July 2, 1957 in Joliet, IL Died: January 5, 2022 in Statesville, NC David R. Bagby, 64 of Statesville, NC and formerly of Streator passed away Wednesday (January 5,. MORRISON: In Kurt Kuenne's documentary, Clark Simpson, one of Andrew's close friends at the hospital, remembers that November morning just two weeks later when Shirley surprised Andrew again. Help contribute to IMDb. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. MORRISON: It was August 2003, the wee hours of the morning by the ocean. But as someone else says, Grief is loves unwillingness to let go. So Andrew's father could just as easily be talking about love. Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss: 1 Photo. As religious as that may sound, that is a comfort. MP Andrews was spurred on to the creation of this bill after seeing "Dear Zachary" at a March screening in Ottawa to which all Members of Parliament were invited. MORRISON: In July 2003, a year and eight months after their son's, murder, Andrew's friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, who'd been making the, documentary film for Zachary about the father he'd never know, arrived in. You dont leave it behind. It's said there's nothing worse than the death of your child, and this film drives that point home harder and with the utmost care and precision." -. (Sea at night; photo of Shirley and Zachary; autopsy report; photo of man; photo of Shirley and Zachary; Zachary sleeping; David and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Kate just quit. Shirley and Zachary, then 13 months old, had been staying with the couple. This couple have endured more grief and pain that most people will endure in a lifetime. I kind of need to move on from that because, like I. said, I'm a Bagby male. Unidentified Woman #12: We won't forget their son. . Thought that maybe he had found somebody that he could really be happy with. But you will come away believing in people. CONTRIBUTED BY DAVID AND KATE BAGBY Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Would you be willing to turn the gun into your local police department so they could get it to us to let us look at it? Bill C-464 was introduced in the House of Commons on October 22, 2009, passed the House of Commons unanimously on March 22nd of this year and passed the Senate of Canada last Thursday, December 9th, where it was sponsored by Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta. USA | Canada | UK, Original poster artwork by Evan B. Harris, Proceeds from this film benefit the Dr. Bagby Scholarship and the Dr. Andrew Bagby and son Zachary Bursary, Watch this short film to see the quest to complete Dear Zachary and amend Canadian bail law. Still grieving the death of their son, the Bagbys moved to Newfoundland and fought for custody of Zachary. -, "Demonstrates independent film at its finest." His father says, "I kissed him and held . Unidentified Man #24: Two I have ever known. He was such a good baby. Our 100 journalists strive to inform and improve our East Coast communities by delivering impartial, high-impact, local journalism that provokes thought and action. Dance with the Devil is David Bagby's . MORRISON: Coming up, a knock at the door, and then the news. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. Kuennes fast-talking exposition, while confusing, seems purposeful, as though the murder were a necessary backstory to be pushed through as quickly as possible in order to get to the heart of the narrative: Andrew Bagbys life and how horrible his death was for those who loved him. We dont do anything related to murder anymore, he said. And when, after his first year at med school, Heather broke off the engagement, Andrew was crushed. MORRISON: But Shirley would make it tough for Andrew to do that. We couldn't let the authorities who let this happen get away with it. Just like Andrew, you know, happy. I think they just poured all of their love and, MORRISON: A week after Kurt's visit, Zachary turned one. If nothing else is accomplished with this film, it will absolutely attach you to the too-short life that was Andrew Bagby's, and you're going to be sad that you didn't get a chance to know him -- but glad all the same that you know ABOUT him now." She just dropped to the floor and laid down, and, I went down after her. `You gave me a lovely son, and now it's over.'. RELATED:California filmmaker remasters documentary on the lives and murders of Andrew Bagby and Zachary Turner. They've retired, hang out with friends and travel a bit, David Bagby said. December 15, 2009: "One of the best documentaries I have ever seen in my entire life a film that will rock you to your core. Home video captured what looked like a. typical domestic scene, but beneath these happy images lies a darker truth. It's great. (Canadian flags; Newfoundland; lake and coast; man in coat; photos of Shirley, and Zachary; Kate, David and Zachary; Shirley, Kate and Zachary; Supreme Court, building; photos of David, Kate, Zachary and Shirley), Mr. BAGBY: Dealing with Turner was like, I don't know, walking around with. I had this overwhelming feeling. And so he set out to collect the memories of Andrew's family and giant circle of friends. Mr. BAGBY: She just kept coming back, and coming back and coming back. Published by Statesville Record & Landmark on. "We had to do something.. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. He had been shot five times and the No. Nobody drives 16 hours after you've just broken up with them.' KATE: People thought she was delicate, you know, and looked KATE: She couldn't kill. How else do you represent almost virtually the same crime happening back to back despite the hindsight in between? Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Or what about the one of me and Andrew? Dear Zachary has been acquired for theatrical release and DVD distribution by the newly formed Oscilloscope Pictures, and will be released in New York on October 31st, and in Los Angeles and Chicago on November 7th. I was like, `Oh, OK, yeah.' MORRISON: Two weeks after Andrew's murder, cell phone records, would show that Shirley Turner drove all the way from Iowa to Andrew's, neighborhood in Pennsylvania, arrived there the day of the murder, and then, she, or at least her cell phone, returned to Iowa. But the fact that theyre probably killers means they are much more dangerous than the rest of us, probably. MORRISON: What did you think when you heard that? We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again. David Bagby. Such choices make for a disorienting viewing experience, especially if youre accustomed to the conventions of slicker documentaries. David Bagby - IMDb MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. The Bagbys were compelled to ensure what happened to their son and grandson never happens again. We were kind of like, `Well, we're not the best ones to be taking care of a child.' I couldn't see the point anymore. How dreadful the knowledge of the truth can be, wrote Sophocles, when theres no help in truth.. This documentary starts out like a love letter. David Bagby Obituary (2022) - Statesville, NC - Statesville Record MORRISON: Andrew tried to make a clean break with Shirley in October 2001. And in that time, the Canadian justice system does nothing. 2023 Cond Nast. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. If you were waiting to find out where exactly the comfort was in this litany of suffering, it is in Bagbys parents. Zachary's life, even talking to her eldest son and his girlfriend about it. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed. Dear Zachary - For those who've asked how Kate & David - Facebook You live your life, you create an entire universe around you, you trundle along, and then FUCK. Go away.'. but if we don't get help, we don't know if we're doing what's best. Typically, we meet the victim not as a person but as a dismantled puzzle to be put back together by the canny viewer, who is likewise appealed to not as a person hearing about a human catastrophe but as an analytical machine capable of sorting and weighing the relevant facts. MORRISON: Because Zachary liked you best? He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. It was like Andrew died and then was reborn for a second chance. Kate Bagby - Mothers Against Murder *Verified* | ZoomInfo I was just gone. Oh, my. Mr. BAGBY: The baby would be half Andrew, and that, for us, was sweet. Amending Canada's bail code was my goal in releasing "Dear Zachary" publicly; it is my pleasure to announce that goal is now a reality. But afterwards, all wounded and broken down, you will see the power of the human spirit even in the face of the darkest of souls." KATE: I had a great childhood. And in the meantime, without that crucial piece of evidence to charge her with Andrew's murder, Shirley Turner quietly left US soil and returned home to Newfoundland. Dr. Andrew Bagby was killed on November 5, 2001, by an older woman named Shirley Jane Turner, who he had dated at a low point in his life. They held their breath. There won't be any question about whether she can hurt, MORRISON: Coming up, as David Bagby wrestles with these terrible. And if that picture never reveals itself, it feels like a letdown, not a tragedy. Woman #9: to make that journey was awful. Then the questioner got choked up.the best thing I've seen in Austin (at SXSW)." He said, `What can happen?'. MORRISON: Zachary Andrew Turner, the son of murder victim Andrew, Bagby and his accused killer Shirley Turner, was born on July 18th 2002, eight, months after the young doctor's murder. Mr. BAGBY: By this time we're pretty damn sure she's complete. There was no way to stop Andrews murder, but there was no way to walk away from Zacharys body and just say hmm, okay, move on," said David. MORRISON: After you found out about Andrew's death, the impulse just ended. COLLECTOR'S EDITION DIGIPAK only from Oscilloscope Laboratories:
David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. Purchase the book here: Amazon USA | Amazon Canada, To read more reviews, visit our Press Archive, ZACHARY'S BILL (BILL C-464) BECOMES LAW IN CANADA, (Click HERE to read a letter to viewers from David & Kate Bagby.). After the pregnancy came to light, the film became a way to introduce Zachary to his father. On the 5th, however, Turner appeared back in Latrobe. Mr. KUENNE: He warmed up to me as the--as the week wore on, MORRISON: But the Bagbys were especially anxious. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible). Kuenne, a childhood friend of Andrews, started out to make the movie as a tribute to Andrew, but it kept taking on new meanings, first with Zacharys birth and then his death. . Even during his stilted summaries of events, you can sometimes hear Kuenne choking up. Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. I dont understand how that can be ignored.. 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition DigiPak: Mommy loves you. We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. (Photo of Shirley, Kate and Zachary; photo of Shirley, David and Zachary; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I just want your word that I'm going to, know where he's at, like any babysitter, you know, if you're going to take him, anywhere, just say, `Shirley, we're going to run out and do this. MORRISON: What was it like to hear that she was going to get out of prison? MORRISON: But would that somebody turn out to be a blessing or a curse? SCREAMS. Right? Cpl. -, "**** (Four stars). I sat there. MORRISON: It was November 2001 when Dr. Andrew Bagby, 28 years old, was found in hospital scrubs lying facedown in the state park in Derry Township, Pennsylvania. Mr. BAGBY: Constable Walsh asking to call him. And thank God. It wasn't just to monitor the, extradition process. Remember these two things as I go on. Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number March 18, 2008: May 16, 2008: The pair planned to take care of the minutiae of dealing with a lost loved one, fly back to California and kill themselves. All rights reserved. (Trailer park; parking lot; water; Kurt on boat; excerpts from "Dear Zachary"; houses seen through rainy window; Kate and Zachary). KATE: And so she said, `Oh, take him and get him dressed,' to me. After Zacharys death, the Bagbys began a quest to have Canadas bail laws changed. At one point, one friend says that if he had one tenth of the people who cared about him half as much as they do about Bagby, he would be happy. Hoping to gain custody of the child, the Bagbys moved to Newfoundland. Senior Writer and Project Manager. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you sure? In the, tribute documentary their son's best friend Kurt Kuenne was making to someday, give Zachary, the Bagbys' friends recount how difficult it was for David and. We don't--we don't gush very much. He said, `Well, it's 4:30 now. They began a drawn-out court battle to protect their grandson from the woman who had almost certainly murdered their son. Because she didnt know love either. (It was announced, in 2014, that the documentary would be made into a miniseries. Screening next at DocuWeek, the International Documentary Association's Theatrical Documentary Showcase. PDF Bail bill inspired by Bagby's murdered grandson It's pretty easy to analyze what the, options are. And you just bought the gun, right? Turner killed herself and Zachary before she could be tried for murder. And he was crying, so I went into the ladies room and sat there, KATE: Made her very angry. Shirley Turner had walked out to the end, of a pier with tiny Zachary strapped to her body with a sweater, then jumped, into the ocean. It didn't clue in, MORRISON: T.J. says while he was touched that she'd shown up at, the hospital, he was also a little surprised. June 2, 2015 - June 2020. December 10, 2007: And if they don't charge her, they had no way to restrict her travel. Well never understand how anybody can ignore the fact that murderers are dangerous, he said. Troutman Funeral Home is assisting the Bagby family. Its heartbreaking, said Kate, who recalls last seeing Zachary the evening before he was killed. It brings its own special brand of. whose parents are charged with a violent crime. Play trailer 2:39. thoughts, his wife sees something that rocks her to the core. Wow." They might as well have sent a taxi to her to help take him out and drown him. to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. I had a son I used, (Photo of young Kate; photo of Kate and David; photo of Kate and Andrew), KATE: And then suddenly you're in the pits, and then you have to learn that, MORRISON: Two weeks after Zachary's murder, the press covered a, Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) We believe that the legal system helped her to, MORRISON: Charging the child protection authorities dropped the, ball, and that a disastrous bail system allowed a probable first-degree, (Zachary; court document; Shirley and Andrew). Are you having a good day with grandmom and. Bring lots of kleenex and prepare to be equally angry and emotionally drained as you watch real, so-called justice in action. And I know, you love me, and--yeah. ', KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah. Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. Had the case played out in the U.S. court system, they believe Zachary would still be with them. It's. Memorial University Medical School. This is a huge step forward in the mission Dear Zachary was created to accomplish. Mr. and Mrs. David Bagby will be notified of the award, and may request background information on the recipient to facilitate any contact between the recipient and the Bagbys. MORRISON: What do you do about this? "Kurt Kuenne has crafted a documentary that began as a legacy of a friend in the form of a letter to that friend's child, and that is powerful enough to endure as legend. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. Because this is where you need it. Dear Zachary has been announced as the first film to launch the newly formed MSNBC Films division of MSNBC. My TV-consumption habits for the past several months have been awash in murder, and Netflix knows itwhich is how, fresh from binge-watching Making a Murderer and hungry for more, I recently came across Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. This odd documentarywhich deals with the death of a young physician named Andrew Bagby, who was a childhood friend of the films director, Kurt Kuennemade a small splash when it was first released, in 2008, but its worth revisiting now, in the midst of the recent bonanza of true-crime hits. Dear Zachary was also a hit at Silverdocs, the AFI/Discovery Channel Documentary Film Festival over the weekend of June 21st & 22nd, where both screenings were once again met with standing ovations; Silverdocs nominated Dear Zachary for its inaugural Writers Guild of America Documentary Screenplay Award. Woman #11: Doesn't matter what happened. Dear Zachary was a hit at Slamdance! He said, `What do you mean?' Man #14: I admire you and respect you so much for two things. Cpl. Murders of Andrew Bagby and Zachary Turner - Wikipedia Click HERE for ticket information. Or it's in the car. If Shirley, Turner had her way, they wouldn't have met Zachary at all, claiming she didn't. The upbeat music stops and a little boy who speaks in that lispy slow muckle-mouthed way little boys do, asks, Why did Andrew get killed?. I cannot stress this enough: this movie frightened and disturbed me more than any horror film I've ever seen in my life. The strange allure of Robert Durst and The Jinx.. KATE: Ah, it was wonderful. I thought if I do that, I go to prison, maybe Kate. But a few weeks later, she showed up in Pennsylvania, unexpected, for the wedding of one of his friends. Both screenings received sustained standing ovations, and the Toronto audience applauded yet again when director Kurt Kuenne announced that he had sent letters to every member of Parliament requesting the opportunity to screen the film for them. On Aug. 18, 2003, while awaiting extradition to the U.S. on a charge of murdering Andrew, Turner jumped into the waters of Conception Bay South with her 13-month-old son strapped to her in a murder-suicide. children, who had recently been in a bad car accident. But the tributes Kuenne collected remain the spine of the movie, alternating throughout with exposition of the murder and its aftermath. 'Dear Zachary' Is A Greek Tragedy Come To Life | Defector I dont know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. Blu-Ray | DVD, BLU-RAY
We send a huge thanks to MP Scott Andrews, his assistant Ken Carter, MP Peter Stoffer, Senator Tommy Banks, his assistant Thrse Gauthier, Gord McIntosh and all those in Parliament who have seen across party lines and supported this bill to honor Andrew & Zachary and help prevent a recurrence of our story.