Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. Bradford White Water Heater Thermostat settings | Save MONEY on Your Electric Bill! Most water heaters include a label listing the annual. Call now at (937) 773-8350 to schedule a service request today Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. The first heater I got didn't run long before one of the elements went out. SPACE HEATER WITH PRETREATED HEAT EXCHANGER - Burkett, William W. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. If your electric company charges you 10 cents per kilowatt hour and you run a 1,500-watt space heater for 10 hours, that will cost $1.50. The heat is a soft even heat and is extremely comfortable. The cost was going to be $10,000. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 etc. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. We tried their medium wings and a couple of the burgers. This article will examine the claims made by EdenPUREs manufacturer and expose their lies. While at home he is not acting as an agent of the business so his actions were not in conflict with his duty of loyalty or notification. Get notified about new Tester jobs in Ranst, Flemish Region, Belgium. Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. Don't buy Edenpure heater they are scammer. Turned on in December. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. The Edenpure is better than most electric heaters because Of how it creates its heat. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). How can heated ceramic plates absorb water? Unfortunately, most don't pay enough attention or don't care about the consumer. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". We have provided heating and air conditioning services to residential and commercial homeowners since 1981. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. No complaints at all. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. You still need them. Hello everyone,Wow what a group of knowledge about the Eden pure heater glad that I came upon this Hub.I find the info very good, and I would like to thank all of you for your comments especially Energy Eng.,Lots of good suggestions and just good ole plain sense.I've been looking at getting one of the Eden pures and just trying it out to see if it will accommodate some of my heating needs.My wife and I are not sure what type to get ,but we know that the basic hearter furnance is not the most efficient.We will try it and get back to you all.Again thanks for the info and the laughs.God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and Holidays. If you were to carefully cover up where air is coming into the hair dryer and feel the front it would get much hotter maybe still not as hot as the heat gun because it has built in overload protection and it will shut off by the time it gets that hot otherwise it might hurt some people. I've read enough negativity about these units I've decided to stick with name brands (Honeywell etc.) I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. Realize that Villa talks about all of the heat loss from the furnace ductwork, then tells you to turn the rest of your house down to 65deg (using this same furnace he rails about)and the EP will keep you toasty, ROFL. The family film tells the story of Bobby Burkett (Huffman), the quarterback for Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas, a small catholic high school. CLAIM: [Other heaters with] cheap ceramic plates reduce humidity. The documents, purported to have been typed in the early 1970s, were likely produced many years later with a computer using Microsoft Word on default settings. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! Have i used them. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. Out performs? i.e. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. What else can I do? You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. THINK ABOUT IT. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. You suffer from the "curse of knowledge" (having a bias based on what other people have taught you) . This guy can't read apparently. Light Commercial Heating & Cooling. Buyer beware. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. Another thing that I doubt some of you would do to save $$$ on your electricity is to get used to the early morning cooler temps by wearing sweats. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Staffing and Recruiting. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. Buyer beware ! Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. They were not meant to be used in that manner. If you sheeple need to believe otherwise, so be it. What I do not understand is if the heater is so great why are not the customer service personal returning calls. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. You could heat an inner room to 70 degrees with the EdenPure for maybe $60/month ($0.15/kWh * 12 hrs/day * 30 days) while dropping the thermastat on the rest of the house to 50 degrees, reducing your heating bill by 40% (assuming avg temp outside is 20 degrees) saving $200/month on natural gas, thereby saving you about $140/month overall! Only if you needed this type Of heater. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. Gas pool heaters are rated by Btu (British thermal unit) output. Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. The memos, allegedly written in 1972 and 1973, were obtained by CBS News producer Mary Mapes and freelance journalist Michael Smith, from Lt. Col. Bill Burkett, a former US Army National Guard officer. Are the so called experts on here thick or something. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Heat pump water heaters (HPWHs) operate in an entirely different way. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. *** So the smaller heater will produce heat but others that I have tried burn the air. I purchased several other type of quartz heaters for back up heating source. They definitely do state 1000 SQ.FT., not cubic feet.I really don't need you to explain to me the difference in cubic feet and square feet. In some situations yes but in some no. Electricity Consumption Comparisons for Home Appliances | Reliant Energy The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. It claims to scrub the air in a 1000 cubic foot room. 600 Frontage Rd, Ripon, CA 95366-2003. Now, here we have a 1500 watt that will be plugged into the same 120 outlet as the Eden Pure, yet the Eden Pure will with its 1500 watts heat up to 1000 sq ft, and this one heats 150?? If not there could be an additional charge etc,. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. Bill Burkett fights back | Salon.com Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! Gas Pool Heaters - Department of Energy Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. After a few weeks it was obvious that this heater is no more efficient than one I can buy mail-order or at Costco for $ 30.00-60,00, so I sent it back at my expense. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. So, that is where your decision lies if the small and inexpensive heater does not cost any more to use and will heat the same square footageDo you feel safe with the cheap one? If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. VERY EXPENSIVE, but interestly enough my sisters was higher and she has a smaller home and a heat pump. The EdenPURE portable electric heater is a scam by my count. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. Options depend on your purchase amount, and a down payment may be required. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. About the same. That was going to be a total of 5-6 zones. Underdogs (2013 American film) - Wikipedia Propane vs. electric heating: comparing costs and benefits. The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75.The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling . Cost between 30% and 60% less per hour of operation than wood-burning fireplaces Emit 40 times fewer emissions than wood-burning units and cost less to operate They can be turned off easily with a switch, eliminating concern about remaining embers Propane gas-burning cooktops and ovens. I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. Talk about a rip off. I was told that they were still processing my order and that it would have been sent out this week (SURE). I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. The Amazon vendor that sells the $15.99 Lasko heater shown above wants $27.00 shipping! Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. For all those engineering types, HVAC types, etc. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. We have found that if you turn the heater on and just leave it alone, it really does a great job. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. :). Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. Looked first at a $14.99 ceramic heater that uses 1500 watts and is rated at just over 5000 btu's. A radiant barrier works best in the attic. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. I WAS FREEZING. [17] You're a blind moron, since you started name calling, when I'm just trying to help people out. Movie filmed in Ohio celebrates triumph of the little guy Though I dont know why you would want to. Sorry to sound so negative in my postings here, it's just I hate to see people get taken, especially someone who believes what they are sold on TV infomercials like these. There just selling an alternative that has good and bad points like everything else on the market. Secure it to the basement wall using the appropriate masonry anchors for your foundation wall. I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. Thanks for the good info that saved me. Let me easily explain. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. Common applications include space heating, cooking, water heating and industrial processes. Whether it saves more money than all the others is not the issue. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. The point has been made of how some feel about it. I starting contacting the company and finally did receive a return shipping label. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. To enhance the gameday experience in the Jim Kelly, Van Miller and Paul Maguire Clubs, a radiant heating system was installed and ready for use during the chilly games of the 2013 season.